Episode 275 Transcript
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[00:00:00] You are listening to episode 275 of the Peaceful Mind Podcast.
Welcome to the Peaceful Mind Podcast, a place for creating the peace of mind. You need to be the best mom you are created by God to be. If you want to bring more balance, more joy, and more peace to your motherhood, this is the place for you. I'm your host, certified life coach at Catholic Mom Danielle Thienel.
In the name of the father of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Let's get started.
Hello everyone. You are in for a treat today as we continue my expert series for this month. This episode features a returning guest actually interview with professional home organizer Tracy Hoth. There is so [00:01:00] much practical wisdom that is coming from this episode today. I know you will enjoy it. I hope you take action and take some steps no matter how small, as you will see, we talk about in the episode to create the peaceful home as decluttered and organized as you want it to be, giving yourself grace for where you are in this stage of motherhood. But I don't wanna wait any longer 'cause it's so good. And I hope you enjoy the episode.
Let me know and share this with anyone else who you think might benefit from having a more peaceful home. We're ready to dive in. Here's my interview with. Tracy Hoth, and be sure to visit the show notes of this episode to get any necessary links to find out how you can get further information on Tracy and about other resources that were mentioned on the podcast today.[00:02:00]
Okay, here we go. Welcome back to the podcast everyone as we continue my expert series. This week I have Tracy and she's been on the podcast before, but I'm so excited to be able to help you have a more peaceful home because she is a professional organizer. And hello, welcome Tracy. Thanks Danielle. So glad to be here to, to talk about organizing.
I know, and you are my first in all of these episodes on the podcast to ever have come back again to Great. Yes. Yeah, because I know I've been on several times on your podcast, so I'm glad to have you back. And for anybody who wants to go check that last one out, it's episode 189. It's called The Five Steps to Organize Anything.
Hmm. Yes. So today, first just start out, Tracy. Remind for those who didn't listen to the last one, just tell me a little bit about like who you are, how you became professional organizer, and let's just start there. Yes, so I have been a professional organizer [00:03:00] for 17 years, and in 2018 I got life coach certified.
So I am one that takes the mindset part of it and combines it with practical, because I love the practical stuff. I want someone to tell me what to do, and so I combine the two of those. But back when my kids were about to start school when my final one was about to start school, I just said, I wanna be able to do something.
And I started helping friends and I started taking pictures and telling people and speaking on the topic and that's what I've done ever since. I love it. And just for you all to know, Tracy is one of my personal life coaches. She has a part of her business where she focuses on life coaches and the digital side getting organized, which has been such a blessing to my life and my business.
So thank you so much there. I mean, I, myself personally love organizing just like you and it, and it does come pretty naturally to me. But, the digital side did not as much, or I've just loved the, the, the [00:04:00] guidance there. So, but today I wanna jump in. I really wanted to offer my listeners, especially now, I know that it could be years when this episode comes out, that people could re-listen.
And so it can be helpful anytime, but for those that listen to it, right when it comes out, it's about to be summer, it's about to be that transition. So I do wanna work in that kind of, you know, that kind of focus today. But in general, what I know is my listeners, they want to feel more in control over the clutter.
They're overwhelmed by. What they might look around and see what it would take to organize their home and they just wanna feel more peace around it, which is exactly what this episode or podcast focuses on. Right. More peace as a mom. So I just wanna start out and ask you, what do you think the biggest misconception people have about organizing their home?
I think the biggest thing is what [00:05:00] organization means. Organized just means that you know what you have and you can find it when you need it. And I think if people understood that versus comparing to some Instagram photos that are, oh my goodness, color photos, television shows, and they have everything decanted and it's all like perfection.
I mean it, it's just means that you know what you have and you can find it when you need it, and everyone in your family can find it. So it's a big thing is assigning homes to things, because then when the hotspots fill up, like on your bar or something, you can easily put things away quickly because they have a home.
But organization, if you think through that definition, I think your shoulders will relax a little bit and you'll see areas where you are organized. I love it. That just brought so much simplicity to it. It just like, kind of went right to the center, the heart of it. I love it so much. Okay, so you and I we're both coaches and we [00:06:00] know that it's is so important to take a look about what's going inside of you about organization and so what mental shifts do you wanna suggest that busy moms need to make?
About organization in order for them to kind of create something lasting? Yes. Okay. So we know the definition of organization now that you know what you have and you can find it when you need it. Even the most organized people still have times, like today, I couldn't find something that I needed.
That doesn't mean I'm not organized, and it doesn't mean that I don't have a house or business that's not organized. So 80%. I want you to think about if you can know what you have and find it when you need it 80% of the time. You are doing amazing. So this whole organization is a journey that you go on and you're gonna learn things.
You're gonna learn things about yourself, [00:07:00] about past times in your life, about what stages your kids are in and just acknowledging these different stages and what you can learn about yourself, but understanding it's a journey, especially when you have different stages of kids. Our house always looks different and you go through things you buy a lot of, and then you let those go and move on to the next stage.
And so it's just this journey that you have. And 80% of the time, if you can be content with. That, I think that's gonna be super helpful in your mindset. Yes. As you were saying that, I was just thinking, you said this morning you couldn't find something. Well, over this past weekend, I cleaned out my closet and I saw myself say in my mind like, you shouldn't have let it get this bad.
And I immediately had to shift with like, no, actually like, it was like fine until it was not right. Yeah. And it was interesting because I [00:08:00] told my mom that I was cleaning out my closet. She's like, didn't you just do that? And it was interesting to see her view when I said no, when was the last time. And I had redone my closet last year and it had been, so it's about a year maybe since I have, but anyways, I just wanted to say, like, as you were mentioning that, like I, I think I'm pretty organized and on top of it, but still, right.
I watch how, like I'm not perfect at it, but I think what I'm really better at that I wanna offer listeners too is how can you like get back to not criticizing yourself for having, yes, it pile up or something like that, but you're just like, you just, Nope, nope. I'm just gonna decide now is when I'm going to make the organizing change.
Yes. Let go of all that judgment of how it should be, of how you shouldn't have, let it get like this, of how you should know how to organize. None of that, just let go of the judgment. There's, those are just facts that you have some stuff and keep. Decluttering, like [00:09:00] decluttering and getting rid of stuff never ends because you're always bringing stuff in and life changes and you inherit stuff and you go to, you know, events that you bring stuff home and your kids are always bringing stuff home.
So vacation, I just brought a bunch of stuff. Yes. Oh my goodness. That's for sure. Okay, now we're gonna get into some like just focus, practicality questions here. Okay? Okay. Alright. What are three to five organizing systems that every family home absolutely needs. Okay. Especially going into summer. I say the first one is planning.
You need a system to plan. You need a system for food. And you need a system for I, I think laundry. Okay, laundry, cleaning, that, that kind of thing. So those things are maintenance things that we do all the time. And so I feel like things that change and you have to maintain them, that you need systems with those.
Okay. [00:10:00] Understand food and laundry. Tell me more about the planning. What do you mean by that? Oh, yes, so you, you're planning something new. Every week, every day there's something new happening, especially in the summer. And so reviewing and planning, and again, go back to that other episode and listen to the five steps, but you use the same five steps in planning.
And so if you have a system in place where you sit and plan, even then maybe you go over it with your spouse or even your kids. You have a system where you have it written, where everyone can see it. That's gonna be super helpful and you review it every night. So there you have your system, a planning time, you have a local place where everyone can see it, everyone's on the same page, and you review it every night.
So that would be a planning system. Yeah. Can you go ahead and, and just tell the five steps again? So let's think of it in your plan. Even for the summer, but let, I don't know, a week at a time, you sort, so all that overwhelm is in your head. And I like to think, I heard this [00:11:00] recently that overwhelm just thinks that you aren't capable of doing something with it or about it or about it.
All good. Isn't that so good? Yes. So you think about that, the clutter in your house like that, but then also just all the stuff you have going on. So sort it, get it all out of your head. And when I'm sorting. Time, like activity stuff. I put it in categories, like calls I need to make computer stuff, I need to do kids activities, work stuff.
Like just start sorting it out and thoughts. Because you're gonna have a lot of thoughts that might be in there too. So once you get it all outta your head, kind of like you're cleaning out a room, then you go through the second stage is purge. The second step is purge. And you're gonna purge. And with time and activities like this, you can look at Ds.
Decide to do it, delete it, delay it, or delegate it. So as you're thinking about [00:12:00] all that stuff you have written down, you probably can't do all that this week. And so what are you gonna delay and what can you get help with and what can you decide? I'm absolutely doing that. And then step three is to assign homes.
So you're gonna pull your calendar out, you're gonna sign homes to when you're gonna do those things. Now that doesn't mean this is where you test things out. It doesn't mean you have to put every single call on your, on your calendar in an appointment, but maybe you do your to-do list in a block of time and that's where you go through your calls or you know, something like that.
So just block off time on your calendar and that amount of time. The fourth step is to set limits. So sort purge, assign homes, set limits, and then maintain. So with your calendar, maintaining it is having that look at it every night, having that weekly appointment on your calendar to plan. Okay. So good.
Thank you. How would you recommend that busy moms approach decluttering when they [00:13:00] have limited time? Yes. First, you have to be open to the fact that it's possible. Right. So you need to say, at least be open, because if you're saying, there's no way I don't have time, I can't do this, then it's gonna be impossible for you.
So be open to the fact that you have time. And then I like to. Focus on one area at a time so that you actually feel like you've completed something or you can go back to it and just like gaze at it and happiness because you finished. I totally do that. Like you're probably walking up to your closet every time you go by.
You're like, oh. I kept saying to my husband, I'm like, you need to see this sock drawer. Come look at my sock drawer. And so this morning when I got out my socks, I'm literally like, I open 'em just like, ooh. Yes, I know. And so mm-hmm. Focusing on one area of a at a time. In Organized Life Academy, we have one area of our home that we focus on each month.
And so when you [00:14:00] do that, you can set up what, what am I gonna do in that area? What's the result I'm gonna create? The 12 week year is what I'm doing. That's a great book if anybody wants to read that. But you pick a project for 12 weeks and so maybe that would be the main level of your house, and each week you're gonna focus on a part of that.
So just picking one area. And I wanna tell the story about a lady who had paper all over her house. She had a husband who she was caring for. She had a teenage daughter, so, and she had a full-time job, so she was busy. So she decided that she could sort paper for five minutes every day, five papers or five minutes.
I can't remember which one. And she said, I can commit to that. Decide what you can commit to and then do it if it lasts more than five minutes. Like sometimes she'd be saying, I never even knew I had an hour. And she sorted paper for an hour and her whole entire house, she dealt with all of that paper.
So what you're, [00:15:00] what you are talking about now is what it's, it's really a foundational part of my coaching where. I even just finished up a program. It was focused around physical health, but it was called 10% Healthier, and it really was about the small changes making a huge difference. And the accumulation, like how much farther you get right when you take something and make it.
You know, a just small doable chunk that your brain is like, oh, well I can do that. Like, but what I love is the results of it, how it compounds. And the same thing with organizing. Like really the satisfaction you can get from one drawer. Yes. And I think oftentimes people think like, well, I, if I can't have my whole house organized, then why even try?
Or the, it's just going to get messed up again from the kids tomorrow. And so they set theirselves up for defeat. Whereas I know that there's an area something where the kids won't go to and [00:16:00] mess up and like. Do that first, right? And then what other small thing can you do? And just like your, your example of your client.
Then before you know it, they'll look back. They're like, wow, look at all that. I cleaned out this and this and this. And then it feels amazing, right? Yes. And so it is that where they think they, they, you know, putting one thing in a donate bag out in the garage isn't gonna make a difference. Well, if you say that at the end of the year and you've donated 365 things, that's huge.
So don't, like you're saying, I just wanna remind people, don't discount five minutes. Yeah. So good. Okay. What specific organizing solutions work best for young children? Then maybe go to like older children, like teenagers or something. Do you have any? Yeah, I think having a younger child, this is where I started this, it's the favorites method.
So when you're in the step of purging, you've sorted through all their stuff and now you're. Purging through one pile is to [00:17:00] ask them like, what's your favorite toy? What do you play with the most in this pile? What do you want to keep for sure? Like, 'cause you play with it. So do that, that, that always helps make it really easy to put stuff away so that the child isn't like.
To put their Legos away, they have to sort it by color. Like what if that, that's way too hard and overwhelming. So just have some bins where they can throw the stuff in and that's what cleans it up. With my kids, it was helpful to set limits and so when people wanna keep all the stuff they bring home from school, they had a limit and it was a folder for each grade.
And so when they could see that that folder was full. It's them seeing it like, oh, nothing else fits in there. So it's like a natural consequence. So now if you wanna keep this new thing, we need to get rid of something in there. And you can do that with their clothes, you know, drawers, shelves, bins, whatever.
I'd say get. As they [00:18:00] get older, get their buy-in, especially with teenagers, like have them come up with and create a solution and then work with the fact that you're testing this. And I think as a family unit it's, it's helpful to say, okay, we've decided together, this is what we're gonna try. Let's test this for a month and reevaluate, come back to this and say, did we like this solution?
Did it work? How do we wanna make changes? So they're buying into it and testing it. Teenage buy-in. I love it. We could do a whole another episode on that. Right. The other thing I have to say with that is if you, and, and maybe I was gonna say this some other time too, but if don't, you know, sometimes with your own kids, it's hard.
Like they don't wanna listen to you. Have an organizer work with them. I've worked with various kids and helped them go through their room and do things in their room that maybe their parents wouldn't have been able to do that. And even a 9-year-old. And then if she [00:19:00] kept it that way, she got her ears pierced.
So it was like an exciting thing. And, and, but it was interesting 'cause she didn't even believe she could do it to start with. And so we had to look at someone else in her life that maybe thought in her cousin's room was really clean. And she got to imagine like, what might her cousin be thinking? So it's more than just, we're gonna get these bins and you're gonna stay organized, but really dive into what they're thinking about it.
Do they think it's even possible? And then have them help you. With the solutions. I love that perspective. I think a lot of us moms listening, were public. Oh yeah. I never really thought about that, because my kids listen to other people and other adults more than me, so that might be a brilliant, even if it's like, you know, a neighbor or a friend or somebody who's good in organizing.
Right. Yeah. That can help you come over. Okay. So good. Okay, but how can moms involve their children without it becoming a battle? Okay. Because even as you said, we're talking about the children, I was like, yeah, but they're going to be like, I don't want to, or, you know, not [00:20:00] listening like we were saying.
Yeah. Well that's where, that's where I put you know, hire someone to work with them. Yeah. Keep it simple. Keep it really simple and fun. We used to. Before school, before we're gonna go get school clothes or whatever, we would have a try on party. So you could make it really fun where you're trying things on.
Another thing, when we would go through our, when I would help my kids go through their room, like my girls shared a room at the time, and we would pull everything out and then rearrange the furniture. So it was super exciting to go through their stuff. Now. To take at the end, you had to really push yourself to keep going.
Now I like that kind of thing. So it was easy. But yeah, so, and realize the other thing for you for moms is to just realize it's a stage like you are gonna get through this really, and it's gonna change. And this big problem that they have, messy stuff is going to change and it won't be there later. So just remember that too.
I'm [00:21:00] in that stage right where so I have one left at home, but it, and, and even again, talk, coming back to talk about summer, we did have my daughter come visit for the weekend. She actually surprised us last weekend, which was super fun. Aw. But then she left. I go up into her room. It was like, and even just watching us get used to things being more tidy and declutter, you know, decluttered and stuff.
And then it was like, it was, the more dishes, it was, the stuff left out. I'm like, she just came home like a whirlwind. And I'm even thinking about that, right. For the summer when the kids are even, even home more. Right? Right. And I think about this. That mind, like I was saying, well she is going to be leaving on Sunday, so I'll get my house back together then and not you know, not worry about it then.
But you do wanna take your mind to, it won't always be this way. Right. Like, I have zero primary color toys in my house. Zero. Right. And for the longest time, that was not the case. Yes. You know, and all the frustration I would [00:22:00] have about all the, the toys out and everything again, it, this too shall pass.
Right. It. It's not always gonna be that way. Yeah. And in that moment, you're having amazing memories and you're making some really fun memories for the kids and in your home. And so it's worth it. It's worth sometimes feeling like you have a mess or it's not organized. Yeah. And I, and I want listeners to take that.
Do you need that mindset shift right now? Like, it's not always gonna be this way, so it's fine. It's okay if even it stays decluttered or messy right now. If you don't decide, like, you know, but that's not, that's not how you're always gonna feel. You are gonna feel. Motivated or inspired at some point when, yes, when the stage changes.
Okay. What is one organizing habit that you think delivers the biggest peace dividend for the smallest effort? Okay. I was, I was like, I have so many things when it comes to paper [00:23:00] and paper clutter. I think going to optout prescreen.com. Is an absolute must. If you have a lot of mail and you have a lot of paper clutter, go there and opt out again.
Opt out prescreen. I don't know why they can't think of something better than that, but opt out prescreen.com. Okay, that's that one. The thought. I trust that God will always supply me with everything I need because then you can let go of things and you know that you will always have what you need. So if you're the a type of person that tends to keep things and it's really hard to let go of things, I would think that thought and just remind yourself over that and, and find that evidence.
I mean, less stuff is the easiest organizing habit. Yeah, so have less stuff. So that's good. Those are, those are some good things. Tell me that thought again. I just want [00:24:00] you to, I know that it was so good and so powerful and I don't want my listeners to meet to, we've got the optout prescreen.com Right.
Having less stuff in general. Right. And then, and then I trust that God will always supply me with everything I need, right when I need it. So I don't need to keep things. He's gonna give it to me. Okay, buddy. Again, those three biggest peace. Right there. You just, yes. Just delivered. Okay. Now we are going to move into something that, I just had this idea really like a few minutes before we hopped on that.
I thought it would be fun 'cause again, my goal with this episode was to really give mom some, some just. Practical like thoughts and steps to just act on now. And I'm going to do something that I'm gonna call like speed coaching speed answers, right? The up until now we've kind of dived a little bit deeper into these questions, but I want to [00:25:00] see if we can just.
Hone in. See what comes from your brilliant mind, Tracy. Yeah. To have an answer to these, what I think are some of, like the most pressing organizing questions out there. Okay. So you ready? I'm ready. Okay. Let's do it. Alright. When moms are asking, where do I even start? What, what would, what's your quickest, where is your biggest pain point?
Okay. Your biggest pain. You the most frustration. Start there. Mm-hmm. Love it. Okay. How about if they're asking, how do I decide what to keep and what to let go of? Use the favorites method I mentioned. I said that with kids, but now I use it for adults. Use it for yourself. What's my favorite? What's my favorite pair of jeans?
What's my next favorite? Okay, so you have five favorites. Now you can let go of the rest. Oh gosh. I love it. Okay, next question. What are the best storage solutions for keeping my home [00:26:00] organized without it looking messy? Use what you have. Don't buy more stuff. Shop your house. Shop your house. I love it. So good.
Okay. How do I organize all of my kids' toys and art supplies so they don't take over the house? You kind of answered this a little bit earlier with your folder method. Yeah. I, I would say decide on a home for each of those categories so art could live in a certain spot. Mm-hmm. I, I would say decide a home for 'em.
Love it. What's the best way to get kids to actually help clean up and take care of their things. Rewards. Rewards, that's right. We all love rewards. Any age. Right. I do that for myself. I will like, you know, once I, and I do that for my work too, like once I get this done, when I've completed this then, and then I like name something ahead of time.
[00:27:00] Yeah. Be like a walk, you know? Anything you think of your animals, you train them. I remember the trainer at PetSmart, she never like said anything discouraging. She just gave treats and trained my dog. This is so good. Okay, how do I handle all the school papers, artwork and projects they bring home? All right, so this one might be that one.
I said I had a flow. Decide what you wanna keep, put it in a bin close by to where you're making those decisions. And then, I don't know, every quarter I would take that bin and go down to their memory bins in the basement, in the storage room, and put things in the folder down there. But have a process and do it right away.
One of the recent things that I did that I'm excited to get back 'cause it's in process now, is, and my kids are older, so I've, I've, I've probably already paired down the art over the years when we, you know, organize it. But I did get it out and I'm no longer gonna keep them. [00:28:00] In the house, but, and I, asked the kids, I, told 'em what I was doing first, but they are each getting, it's gonna be made into a book, hard book.
Oh, I love that. I have clients doing that too. Yeah. It looks so fun. So it's just gonna be three thin books instead of three huge packed bins. Yeah. I'm, I'm excited for that. Okay. Here, next question. How do I set up our home to handle the chaos of kids being home all summer without it feeling overwhelming?
Hmm. The thing that came to my mind first was that we had a big calendar that we put on the back of the basement door, and we had everything written out. But set up your home. Maybe pick one thing that you want to have everyone pitch in on, like if it's cleaning the kitchen before you all leave the table or whatever.
I, I'd say just pick one area to be a big deal and let the rest of it go. Yeah. And since we've [00:29:00] talked today, what came to my mind when I read that was, mm-hmm. Was the second half when it said without it feeling overwhelming. And I went back to your definition of saying like, overwhelm tries to lie to you to say you're not capable.
And I'm like, you could just tell yourself you are capable of handling whatever happens this summer with your kids. Oh, I love that. Even if it's like, again, you could go through its own summer will end that meant cry thinking about it because I love it. So, but so yeah. Like, okay. Or maybe the mind shift, like, yeah, it's gonna be chaos and that's okay.
And that's what came to mind. Yeah. Okay. What are some simple systems to keep summer cothes swimsuits and outdoor gear from becoming a mess? Ooh. I mean, I'll just tell you what we did. Yeah. Swimsuits. I like just a bin or a place that you put those, but we would, sounds so, so basic. We are very basic.
Basic. We had nails that were in the garage [00:30:00] and we would hang towels there before we came in the house. And so they were there before we moved in and we've used them. It's been so good. Winter, we hang winter stuff out there so it doesn't come in the house. And then summer, we hang summer stuff out there.
Yeah. When I ask the question and thinking about how, what you've taught me, and even just hearing what you've had to say today, I'm like, oh, like you've literally just assign a home to it. That's what came to my mind. Yes. That's, that is what I did. Right. Yeah. It's like they go on the nail, put it on the nail.
You don't put it in a pile. Okay, how can I create, this is the last one. Lemme no, next to the last one. How can I create a daily routine of organization systems that keep the house in order? When we're all at home more, this might be kind of like the same, repetitive, I mean, I would say start with one.
We're working on implementing routines in our organized life academy, and if we make a routine, let's look at our routine and we have five steps. So you're looking at your summer day and you have five steps. Just start with one for the first week [00:31:00] and just do that one thing. And if you do anything over that, it's like frosting on the cake.
Yeah. But start small. I love that. Again, the start small, the power of one thing. Yes. Yes. Use that in the, the digital world that she helps me with too. Okay. How do I stay on top of organization and prevent clutter from piling up again? Have a maintenance routine, so when you're maintaining, tie it to something you already do.
So like you with your closet. When you bring laundry in after you've done laundry or if you, you know, get dry cleaning. When you bring dry cleaning in, spruce up the room when before you go get groceries. Or when you bring 'em back, before you put 'em away, clean out the fridge or before trash day, clean out the fridge.
Like do tie it to something that you're already doing and just add on that little maintenance part. Tie it to something. Love it. Okay, so that, that was my speed coaching. Oh, that was good. My speed questions, I guess. [00:32:00] Speed interviewing. Okay, so I'm gonna this is my last one. What final encouragement would you offer to a mom who feels her home is beyond help?
Okay. God's got you. First of all, I love knowing that he knows what I feel. He knows what I'm thinking and, and going through, and then reach out and ask for help. So many people think they should do it, and maybe even your spouse is telling you, you should, we should be able to do this, but why not just get help?
A lot of times, most of the time, people don't teach their kids or whoever, we don't take a class on how to organize and the skill of organizing, and so why not just get help whenever I don't know how to do something, I wanna join a group, I wanna be follow someone's system that knows how to do it. That's helped people do it.
So I would say just get help and learn it. Yeah. Invest in [00:33:00] yourself, in your mind. Okay. Well, Tracy, we're, we're at the end of our second time here together. Yeah, it was so fun, so helpful. Thank you. Anything else before we go? No, I think that's it. I think that's it. And know that each little step is, is going and don't judge yourself for that last question.
Don't judge yourself. Don't add that layer of judgment on, it's just neutral. You have some stuff in your house. I know that a mom really needed to hear that today. So again, thank you, Tracy. Yeah, yeah. Okay, everyone, that is another episode of The Peaceful Mind Podcast, and until next week, may peace be with you.
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Until next time, peace be with you always.
